CODE RED - Jennifer Wagner

[00:00:09] Speaker A: We knew that we needed to take this to the National Mall. We had over 375,000 women and families show up. Even 10 million people worldwide watched online. We asked, what do we do next? And that's when he said, you take don't mess with our kids to the streets. [00:00:25] Speaker B: In this episode of Code Red, we are honored to have Jennifer Wagner. Jennifer is a leader of a grassroots movement to change our world by changing families, neighborhoods one heart at a time. It's called Don't Mess with Our Kids. And you'll want to hear the work that she's doing that began in Peru, of all places, and the United States has come next, and it's spreading like wildfire across our nation, and you'll want to learn more and be a part of it. So welcome to this episode of Code Red. So, Jennifer Wagner, welcome to Code Red. [00:01:11] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:01:12] Speaker B: So you've been thinking about podcasting yourself. Feel like the Lord's calling you to do that? [00:01:17] Speaker A: I have. I have. [00:01:18] Speaker B: How far have you gotten into it. [00:01:20] Speaker A: As far as buying the mics? [00:01:22] Speaker B: You got the mics. Okay, that's. That's the biggest part. Get really good mics. These are the same mics that Thriller was recorded on back in the 80s. [00:01:32] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:01:33] Speaker B: And they're. They're affordable. They're, like, probably 700 bucks, but they're well worth it. And if you. If you capture the audio, well, the video is pretty easy if you can get the audio, but nothing's worse than going through a whole episode and finding out that your mic was too low or it was too hot or whatever, you know? But we did this. We kind of had the same sense that God. I noticed Jesus worked through sermons and through conversations, so you would see at times a monologue, a sermon, and then you would see a dialogue, like Jesus and Nicodemus or whoever it was. And we would have all of these interesting people pass through the church, and we said, you know, why don't we just capture that? Because we want our friends to hear about what God's doing in your life and everybody that we talk to, you know, and. And it's been interesting just to see how he's blessed it. [00:02:27] Speaker A: I love that. I love that so much. [00:02:29] Speaker B: So tell me a little bit about your world and the ministry that God's called you to. [00:02:35] Speaker A: Yeah. So, gosh, I feel like I need to go back just a little bit in time, if you don't mind. [00:02:43] Speaker B: It's fascinating and it's sobering, and so I want to. I want to hear about that. [00:02:48] Speaker A: I Appreciate it. So, you know, I grew up, just for some context, I grew up in a Christian home, and my grandfather was in what I call businessry. He was a businessman, but he had an incredible mission field through that. My mom was a worship leader. I loved Jesus when I was little. [00:03:07] Speaker B: Was this in the Carolinas? [00:03:08] Speaker A: This is it. Early on, it was actually in Massachusetts. But around 12 years old, I moved to North Carolina. So that's what I call home. [00:03:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:17] Speaker A: But at 17 years old, I found myself in a situation that I never expected. And I was sexually assaulted by somebody that I knew. And in an instant. It's incredible what the enemy can do so quickly in a moment of trauma and pain. And my voice was stolen. I was riddled with shame, with even guilt, blaming myself for being in that position. And for 16 years, I carried that silence and that pain, and it just eats away at you. And what I found myself doing was running from the Lord instead of running to him, because the enemy had convinced me that, you know, I was damaged goods or I couldn't be used by him anymore. And now I know that that couldn't be further from the truth. Right. The enemy always likes to use the counterfeit of what God actually has for. For you. And so fast forward, let me ask you with that. [00:04:19] Speaker B: When that occurred, was that something like, did you immediately confide in someone or like. [00:04:26] Speaker A: No. [00:04:27] Speaker B: How do you. How do you. What. What brought you to the place to where you could tell somebody else that this happened? [00:04:32] Speaker A: Yeah, it took 16 years to do that. [00:04:34] Speaker B: Wow. You carried that for 16 years? [00:04:36] Speaker A: I carried that, yeah. I literally felt like I was dying on the inside, but nobody knew because I was really, really good. And I got better and better every year at performing. I was still leading, I was still succeeding right on the surface, but I was carrying all of that suffering and that darkness on the inside, and it was literally crumbling me. And I found myself in business, actually. Texas has really good soil. I always seem to have major breakthrough moments in Texas. And I was there for business. And they held a special service, church service for all of the leaders there, for business. And I. I attended that service. And I don't know if you've ever had this moment, but it's like, you know, when God's running after you so hard, you can just feel it in your spirit. But I was like sitting on my hands. I knew that altar call moment was coming, but I was terrified, right, Because I was afraid to face the ruins and. But I ran forward. I just couldn't help it. My body just ran to the front, I had this incredible woman pray with and she told me the most powerful thing. And it was a picture, a visual that I could hang onto. And it was about curling up in the lap of Jesus and letting him be my father, my friend, my protector. And he just took me back to that space and that time and reminded me that he was there and he's always been here. And so that really began that breakthrough journey of opening my mouth again about it. [00:06:09] Speaker B: Did they address abuse specifically or was it just kind of that was on your radar in every service or I'm just curious how they reached you in that way. [00:06:19] Speaker A: Oh, gosh. Honestly, I don't remember what was spoken prior to. It's just my spirit just leapt and I couldn't even like my mind couldn't even think about it anymore. It just happened. I just responded. And you know, we're talking about 16 years after, you know, I had this trauma and I incurred many, many other traumas. So now we're at a place where I've actually gone through a divorce. I had lost a baby through miscarriage. So there were a lot of things that had compounded that trauma. And this woman encouraged me, after praying to go home and talk to my family about it. And that's where I started. [00:07:04] Speaker B: How did that go? [00:07:07] Speaker A: Amazing. Honestly, I come from very loving parents. They've prayed for me my entire life. So, you know, what I found out after sharing was that this was generational in my family. So by me breaking my silence, it began to set other people free in my family who had been carrying and hiding the same traumas. [00:07:35] Speaker B: Well, that's so. And that's so common in the south especially things would happen that we just didn't talk about. And I think in our generation it's becoming more acceptable just to have the conversation. And you're right, it is multi generational many times. And the enemy hides in secret places he loves when we don't bring things into the light and he can exploit that. And so it's the moment that we shine the light on begins one, I think from my experience and observation, in some ways it takes the strength out of what happened, that it felt so big and so huge before. And then once we had this idea that if other people know about it, they're going to think differently about me or less of me. And then when we actually say, you know, both, either we've sinned or we've had sins committed against us, oftentimes people are like, thank God it's not just me. [00:08:43] Speaker A: That's Right. [00:08:44] Speaker B: And so I'm assuming it was your parents that you shared with. [00:08:48] Speaker A: It was. Yeah, they were the very first ones. And honestly, the biggest fear that I had with sharing with them was that I was trying to protect them, because I know how much they love, and they've always protected me, and I didn't want them to feel guilty, you know, that they couldn't protect me in that moment. And thankfully, God came in so gracefully and so lovingly for all of us in that moment, and we were just able to love one another through that and begin that healing process. Even though for them it was a suddenly moment to learn this and then begin healing, for me, it was like, oh, finally, you know, I get to release this. You know, I could hand this burden that I had been carrying for so long and give it back to Jesus and to have that weight lifted and to taste that freedom that he provides for us, it was incredible. And so, you know, fast forward, Here we are 10 years later to today, and, you know, it took some work. I had to go into some of those deep, dark places and unlock some doors that I. I never thought I would ever open. You know, I had built, like this. This fortress, and it was like a stone wall that had gone up around my heart. But God just came in so lovingly and so gently and said, let me pour my oil back into these cracks in these crevices. Let me pour my love. Let me fill it with my glory. [00:10:19] Speaker B: What did he use for that? Did you have counseling? Did you talk to a therapist, or. [00:10:23] Speaker A: Yeah, it was a combination. Honestly, I had incredible discipleship that the Lord had already set up in advance that were already surrounding me, many of which were actually through the business I was in at the time. And what's so fascinating, too, is that one of the women that I'm running with right now in this movement. Don't mess with our kids. That we'll talk about soon, is she was in business with me in 2011, and she was a powerful, powerful leader for. For me, what I got to see through her, what it looked like to really walk in the authority and the true identity that God has given you. I didn't know her personally at that time, but I knew that she had something different, both her. Her and her husband. So their marriage, their entire family. And she was just such an example for me to follow. So I learned as much as I could from her from afar. [00:11:18] Speaker B: Who is she? [00:11:18] Speaker A: Her name's Jenny Donnelly, and she has a church out in Portland, Oregon, called Tetelestai. But the movement that we're a part of. It's called her voice movement. [00:11:29] Speaker B: Okay. I went and looked her up because you had mentioned her in one of your other interviews, and she really seemed like a fascinating person. [00:11:36] Speaker A: She is. She's a powerhouse. [00:11:38] Speaker B: And is her background. Did she go through something similar to what you went through? [00:11:42] Speaker A: She definitely has a testimony of her own. Yeah. [00:11:45] Speaker B: Okay. [00:11:46] Speaker A: Yeah. Early on, I don't know all of the specific details, but I know that for her it was a separate, similar, kind of around the similar time frame. If I recall correctly, it was around her early 20s and same thing. You know, the Lord just never stops running after you. And he just arrested her heart. She'd been running from him for so long, just like I had. And I do recall this one piece of her story, that she had run to a church because things had become so dark for her. She ran to the closest church that she could find that was open, and a pastor had taken her to a room and had played an audio and she was in there. And I don't know what was on that tape and what played, but she just began to weep and to weep and to weep. And it, you know, things broke and that she had people around her, same thing. She had a friend who was walking with the Lord and could speak life and could speak the gospel into her, and she just started running after him. And here we are decades later, and. [00:12:49] Speaker B: It'S interesting how God takes the things that were prisons and turns them into passions, you know, And I think about Paul as Saul. He was so bound up in legalism and works based salvation. And then when he met Jesus, that that became his primary ministry was to set people free. [00:13:15] Speaker A: Yes. [00:13:16] Speaker B: And you know, in a similar way, if somebody's been through abuse and they can be the tool that God uses, a lot of times that, you know, that pain becomes a passion and brings life to a lot of people. And so tell me about how that evolved into what you're doing now. [00:13:36] Speaker A: Yeah. So, you know, you mentioned about that pain. I distinctly remember in 2012 just crying on the floor and asking God for that very thing, that please do not let this pain be in vain. Please use me so that others don't have to go through the pain and suffering that I've gone through. And it took a lot of work and it took quite a bit of time. But here we are in 2023. I was actually listening to somebody else on YouTube and you know how it gives you suggestions. Jenny Donnelly popped up with one of her word on Wednesdays. And I'm like, oh, my goodness. I know her. You know, I had forgotten that she was also in ministry, not just business. We had been separated from that business a coup of years prior. And she was speaking about really what catapulted. Don't mess with our kids. And so much of the movement that we're moving into now with a dream. And she was. This was back, go to 2020. Right. Our cities are in disarray, especially where she's at in Portland, Oregon. And, you know, she's like, gosh, I hope somebody's gonna do something about this. And, you know, of course, then the Lord is like, well, what about you? You know, and she's like, well, I'm just a mom, you know, a five kids. But she's like, what's it going to take God for the church to step into this fight? And he said, when they take your kids. And she was sharing that message on YouTube that day, and it gripped me. And so, of course, I had to listen to more. And they were having a women's retreat just a couple of weeks later, and I just felt the Lord say, go. And I went and just radical faith and just gave the Lord my yes. Didn't know what it meant. And I mean, that's where everything began. [00:15:27] Speaker B: So tell me, what is the mission of don't mess with our kids? What does it exist for? [00:15:34] Speaker A: So I think we need to go back to the foundation of where it started, which was actually 2016 in Peru, and it began with a brave brother and sister, so a family. And just for some context, again, in Peru at that time, there were a lot of controversial laws that were in place, particularly that were attacking the identity and gender of children. [00:15:59] Speaker B: Right. There still are. There's. There's there there, you know, fighting it like we are here. Have you been to Peru? Have you. Have you experienced it? We. We had the privilege of going there with another Florida organization called One More Child. Yeah. And it works in human trafficking. And. And for whatever reason, we don't have a background in that, but the Lord has opened up several doors in other countries for us to speak into that. I think Florida' a gateway into the States. A lot of these children come through. [00:16:30] Speaker A: Yes. [00:16:30] Speaker B: And so we had the opportunity to go to Lima and to several of the other cities there in Peru and just work with government officials about human trafficking. And we were surprised because I think sometimes when you think culture war, you think all of the things, the crazy Alphabet stuff we're dealing with here, we tend to think that that's localized, but it's Global. [00:16:58] Speaker A: Yes. [00:16:59] Speaker B: The enemy's working in every country, every people, group. Ethnicity makes no difference to him. And so back to Peru. How did it begin? [00:17:10] Speaker A: Yeah, so they said enough is enough because they saw family and children under attack, and they said, we can't stand for this. So they started gathering other families and men, women and children to take to the streets. They created a flag, and it was blue and pink representing. That was their family flag, but it was also representing. Yes, hence the pink today. But it was representing God made male and God made female. And so they just began to fill the public spaces. And it crossed denominational lines. And there were even families that just said, hey, we just believe in the institution of family, and we believe in the protection of our children. Whether they were Christian or not, they turned out, and they turned out in their pink and blue. And it became this groundswell of millions of people in the streets, and it actually even spilled over into other countries surrounding. [00:18:09] Speaker B: That's awesome. I think it's almost like we use the term, it's like a judo move that the Lord does of something that the enemy meant for evil, that he used for good. And in our community here, this is one of the most conservative counties in the state of Florida, but it was on the radar for the transgender movement. They would come in and they had these little quaint cities that looked like Gilmore Girls that they would pick to come into and have these huge pride movements, pride parades. And this was one of the cities they would start in New York, they would end up in Miami, just go down the East Coast. So they chose this little city which is conservative. It's Bible belt, South Georgia, North Florida. And they would have the transgender story hour. They would have all of those things right here. And what we found is the church was not speaking up. It wasn't speaking into that conversation. So a very conservative community had a several church leaders that were more liberal, and 2020 kind of forced us to have that conversation. So ministers had to say, here's where I'm at on these issues. We were a conservative church in this community. Many of the other mainline churches were not. So what happened is there was a great realignment where people like you said, that may not even be a believer, but they knew that things have gotten crazy in our world and they were drawn to sanity. They wanted someone just to say, this is the way the world is. And they found Jesus through that many times. But they would come. We said sometimes we felt like the evangelists to right wing Republicans that already saw the world the way we did. But they haven't met the Lord who made the world. And so they would come. Come to our church, and oftentimes come to faith in Christ. But it was that same reason. It wouldn't. It wouldn't be, I feel lost. I need a savior. It was, does anybody have a message that makes sense in the world we live in? It's gotten off the tracks. [00:20:39] Speaker A: That's right. [00:20:40] Speaker B: You know, so it sounds like he's done that in other places there in Peru. [00:20:44] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:20:46] Speaker B: Well, how did that spread to the States? [00:20:47] Speaker A: So it took Peru about four years. And what they were after was basically removing every single woke law that was put in place and to preserve and protect family and their children again, which today it is. It's actually a more Christian nation than it's ever been. And what's really amazing is, I don't know if you remember this, but in 2015, we had our White House lit up in pride colors. And what's amazing that God has done is he had what's equivalent to our White House in Peru lit up in pink and blue. And they have established a family month, so an entire celebration of Family Month in Peru. [00:21:34] Speaker B: So where we were having Pride Month, they have Family Month. That is so cool. [00:21:41] Speaker A: Yeah. So basically, Peru reached out to us and said, tag, you're at America if you don't do something before we get to that. [00:21:52] Speaker B: And this may not be something that you're able to answer, but how did that develop? I mean, your families are meeting together. I understand that. I understand the pink and blue, but how does it go from there to having an audience in the halls of power? [00:22:09] Speaker A: Well, you know, it's a funny thing. When you stand united, you can get a lot of attention, and it's the power of public opinion. Right. And this is why it's so incredibly important for the church, the body of Christ, the remnant, to come together and to unify. You know, when we even compare it to the pride community or any of the other controversial groups that we've seen take what looks like they've taken massive ground and have had major multiplication. They're actually very small populations of people. We are much larger in number. But we've got to come together. Yeah, but we have got to come together in unity. And part of that, one of the principles that the Lord gave us, it's a biblical principle. When you think about even the pride movement itself, there isn't one single person or a name that you can say, hey, that's pride. Right. But we know their colors. We know their flags, and they turn out in the public space. And so they used a kingdom principle. It's right out of Jeremiah. And so for us, we said, okay, Peru's done it. If God did it for Peru, why not copy paste and do it for America? So that's what we're doing today. [00:23:34] Speaker B: Okay, so the movement, you're going into cities and then bringing people into D.C. explain to me kind of how the strategy works. [00:23:46] Speaker A: Yeah. So I think we've got to go back a little bit to 2023, when it first came to the United States. And let me be clear, there is. Prayer is really the foundation of everything that we do. We call that our air game. And then taking to the streets is the ground game. We have to get into that secret place and have that prayer. That is our wartime in the spirit. And that's where we download and receive strategy from the Lord, and we hear his heart on our next moves. So we have been growing what we call prayer hubs all over the United States since 2023. And our heart and our mission is to see every household ignited as a house of prayer for the Lord and to raise up our children in prayer. And so that's where it started. And then the Lord said, okay, I want you to go to all 50 state capitals, and I want you to pray publicly, and I want you to stand for righteousness and truth. And that's what we did on April 14th of 2024. It was. We called it the Esther Call to the capitals. And we had over 20,000 families standing in all 50 state capitals all at the same time. Wow. [00:24:58] Speaker B: How many? [00:24:59] Speaker A: Over 20,000. [00:25:00] Speaker B: That's incredible. [00:25:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:01] Speaker B: All at the same day? [00:25:03] Speaker A: All same day, same time, all across the country. [00:25:06] Speaker B: That had to be logistically, a challenge to pull that off. [00:25:09] Speaker A: It was. I was actually. The Lord had tapped me on the shoulder and said, hey, you're gonna be the captain for the state of Florida. And we just rallied together as best that we could. I'd never done anything like this before, but, you know, he's the one who provides, and he knows what we need. [00:25:26] Speaker B: I'm always fascinated in the details of how something like that comes together. So how long did you have if you put a date on the calendar and say, this is the day, we're all gonna do this. How many weeks, months, years did you have prior to that to kind of get things in order and spread the word? [00:25:45] Speaker A: Yeah, it was more like weeks and months. So I found out, actually, because the headquarters is in on the West Coast, I received the message at 2am and this was in November, the first week of November, and said, hey, this is what we're doing, and you're gonna be the captain for the state of Florida and I need you to build a team and I need you to raise the funds. And we had, you know, a kind of a corporate blueprint of what this is going to structurally look like. It was a two hour window that we were going to gather. We went in to pray fast and stand in Tallahassee. In Tallahassee, yes, yes. Which I had never been to before. I had no contacts there. But, you know, if it's God's plan, he's always gonna bring the people and the resources and he sure did. And it's always something I've learned too, last year is that he. He does it in a way that you never expected. So things sometimes may feel like they're falling apart or it's not coming together, but he always loves to leave that room to show off right for his glory, to shine. And so it was all about him. But one of the things that he told me about Florida was that he was releasing a new sound, and it was the sound of the next generation. And that's what we did. We just let all of our decision making be spirit led. We didn't, you know, lock in a speaker or finance any of the aspects that we needed for that day without his. His lead. And we were a small but mighty team. And we had so many incredible people show out, and it was powerful. [00:27:27] Speaker B: How did you spread the word? [00:27:29] Speaker A: Grassroots. Everything's grassroots. [00:27:31] Speaker B: So are you calling churches? Are you? [00:27:32] Speaker A: We did. We called some churches. We tried to reach out to radio stations and news stations. You know, we had a press release that we shared everywhere that we could. We would call families and friends and businesses and our prayer groups or Bible studies, anywhere that we could. Everybody was immobilizer. You know, we all had to work together because we had a short window of time to do it. [00:27:59] Speaker B: How big was your Florida team? [00:28:01] Speaker A: Oh, goodness, like less than 20 people. So they were hustling, we were hustling. [00:28:09] Speaker B: Did you run into anybody in all of that who didn't receive it as a good thing? Any pushback? [00:28:17] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. So because we're a grassroots movement, it's a hashtag, right? Don't mess with our kids. And what we have found is that oftentimes it can repel people. And you just have to learn to let those things roll off your back. And you have to know that, you know, that God called you to this. And this is where we're going and what we're doing, and we will be there whether others join us or not. But it was hard. It was disheartening sometimes when the churches didn't respond in the way that you would hope or expect. [00:28:49] Speaker B: It was in similar type things. We do a Christian Heritage parade that has a lot of the same goals of just restor truth and sanity and the gospel to our community. And so we wanted to do it on July 4th. There wasn't a July 4th parade in this community. So we said, well, let's make one. Let's let the church lead in it the city, because of practical reasons, they said we can't do it on July 4th, but we can move you back a couple of weeks. Which put us right on Pride Month, which was fine with us. But it was at the same time that community thought that it was just a personal attack against them. And so it became, we're about to do it again. Our second annual comes up at the end of June here in a few weeks. And it was so interesting to see the way that the church at large, Big C Church, interpreted what we were doing. On one hand, there were some churches that, that they wouldn't touch it, they wouldn't get anywhere close to it. And it was disappointing because they could be very bold in the pulpit, but when it came down to real life, they didn't want to be involved. And other churches that we wouldn't consider part of our tribe, they were from a different movement. We believe they were Christians, but they were just from a different movement. It brought. Brought us together in a really unique way. And people that otherwise we've never done ministry together, suddenly, man, they're our best friends now. And it's been good for us. I think it's been good for them. And when we're recording this, it's the National Day of Prayer. And so tonight at our church, from all over the community, these churches will come together and call out to the Lord and hopefully many of those will join us marching through our streets and just preaching truth and loving people. Something that we observed. And I wonder if you saw the same thing. The people who are in that community, whether it's the Alphabet soup, you know, of gender and sexuality, whatever it may be, the people who are actually in the community never were problems like they understood. You just see the world different. They didn't take it personally. It was the people who were not in that community that just took up that mantle. And people from a leftist worldview that really just wanted to tear apart social norms in General that championed that particular cause. They were the ones that were the most vicious and standing against what we were doing. Oh, yeah, And I found that interesting because people, we saw people come to Christ who were from a lesbian background, homosexual background. We saw people who didn't come to Christ, but they didn't look at us as enemies. They knew that we loved them and we're here to just stand our ground with our kids, you know, and we didn't want people to come in and like you said, mess with our children and lead them down a road that God didn't create for them. And so generally, that community itself received it fine. It was the people on the edges of it that saw us as enemies and stirred the pot. You know, were there any people in Tallahassee that, that didn't want you to do this or. [00:32:39] Speaker A: I think there were some behind the scenes pushback, you know, because when you do something like this, you have to get a permit and things like that. And it took a long time and a lot of prayer for somebody in even Florida government to put to sign their name on that permit because they heard of what we were doing and what we were standing for. And as you mentioned, some of them, they were afraid to touch it. What we love so much about what we've done, the Lord had already shown us that thousands and thousands of men and women from, you know, the lifestyle would be saved and they would be delivered. And what we have found, we had the same experiences you did. We actually have many on our team that have come out of that lifestyle and that gender confusion. And they are free now and they are running and, and speaking out for God and loving, especially on that community, because they understand. But yeah, I mean, it was hard to get the people who were in positions of influence that could make things happen very quickly. A lot of them are afraid to touch it and they still are. [00:33:50] Speaker B: Right. Talk to me about the prayer hubs. What does that look like? [00:33:53] Speaker A: Oh, I love the prayer hubs because honestly, it's incredibly simple and it's a biblical principle. It's about two or more who are gathered. And I think the misconception is they hear hub and they think it has to be a really big group, like a Bible study. And so some tend to feel like, oh, if I, if I don't have 10 or 12 people to gather in my home to pray with me, then it's not going to work. And that couldn't be further from the truth. The Lord is teaching us how to come together in agreement and to pray and to hear his heart. And we provide free prayer guides. So what we've found is that there are many who aren't comfortable praying. I was that person for a long time that I knew how to pray in my head and my heart, but I wasn't comfortable praying out loud. And I also wasn't comfortable or even understood how to pray strategically. Right. To shift things in our nation or to shift things in my family. And so that's what we give them. We give them the tools and resources for free. We also do it to include the entire family, so we free coloring pages for the kids. We want this to be a family affair. And there is something about your children, even if they're not old enough to pray out loud with you, that seed is planted. Right? That move of the Holy Spirit is getting into their hearts every single time you're doing it. And we don't ask for much. We ask for once a month together, two or more. And we provide all the free resources to do it. [00:35:21] Speaker B: And is that kind of at the liberty of the person hosting as to when they do it, when they do. [00:35:26] Speaker A: It, how they do it? So we have some folks, like, for instance, a lot of my family's still in North Carolina. And so the best that we can do if we want to do it together as a family is to do it over Zoom or FaceTime or just the phone. And that is just as impactful as being in person. But the whole point is that the Lord wants to bring us back to that family unit of praying and speaking to him and raising the next generation up in prayer. [00:35:54] Speaker B: Well, it's so important to win neighborhood by neighborhood. [00:35:57] Speaker A: That's right. [00:35:58] Speaker B: I think about with the disciples, when Jesus sent them out, he said, you know, you'll come to a home and your peace will settle on that home. And you go into that home, you stay there. That's your house of peace. And, you know, in our neighborhoods, if we're willing to be that house of peace that will champion what the Lord's doing, will be open to it, then you may have another person that the Lord brings in that can be that lead person that's leading in prayer and kind of taking the leadership mantle, but being willing to open your home up. Some people have a home that could house more. And you see that all through the New Testament, where Lydia or someone who that has a nice home that can host the church, and then other people come in and they're the pastors or they're the apostle or whatever. But, you know, we didn't lose this in an election, this happened family by family, home by home. And that's the only way we're going to turn it around. [00:37:07] Speaker A: That's right. That's right. And it doesn't even have to be in the home. We have some moms that meet up with other moms to take their children to the park and they'll do it in the park together. We've got Gen Z, the younger generation, the next generation that's gathering for pre dates and coffee shops. It can be anywhere. Use your creativity. But it's really just about two or more. [00:37:30] Speaker B: So how does the communication work with the national movement? Do you have a conference or how does everybody, let's just assume one of our daughters wanted to be a part of it and they say, okay, so we can, we can start a prayer date or whatever, but how do we learn more about what's happening? How do we get connected with other people? [00:37:53] Speaker A: Yeah, the best way to do that is to go to hervoicemovement.com movement is abbreviated to mvmt.com so hervoicemovement.Com everything is on there, including how to download and register your prayer hub. It is really actually helpful and important to register because that's how we have directors that are in many of the states across the nation, like myself, I'm the Florida Prayer Hub director and I am responsible for connecting with the local prayer hubs that are across our state, whether that's individuals, families, we even have some churches that have committed to doing this together as a congregation. And we will have host local gatherings, some of them we call super hubs. And it's just to get together and have fellowship but share what the Lord is doing right now. Of course, Jenny Donnelly, who's really spearheading this for all of us here in the United States, she has a YouTube channel where she's constantly sharing what's going on day to day across the nation. We're getting ready to go to the streets, take Don't Mess with Our Kids to the streets for Mayday USA starting on Monday. [00:39:05] Speaker B: Tell me about, tell me about that. I know you're about to go on tour. [00:39:07] Speaker A: Basically, yeah. So, you know, this came, we kind of skipped over what we had done in October. So when we went from that Capitals event in April, then we knew that we needed to take this to the National Mall in October. And we had over 375,000 women and families show up in person again to pray fast, stand and repent on behalf of our nation. And the Lord just, he gave us A window of mercy this year. And even before we stepped into that, that moment on the national mall where even 10 million people worldwide watched online, he gave us this window of mercy this year. And we asked, what do we do next? And that's when he said, you take don't mess with our kids to the street. And so we knew, we didn't know the full structure of what that would look like. That came not long after. And he highlighted five major coastal cities. And one of the reasons why he did that, it was New York City, Miami, Houston, Louisiana, and Seattle. So one of the things that he's placed on our heart is the fact that we have lost 63 million babies to abortion. And every single year, over 100,000 children are trafficked every single year. And what we realized through some of our previous gatherings is that in Florida, especially trafficking in all of these major cities, it's a gateway. And so he wants us to go into those cities, to go in with love, with worship, with evangelism, to ignite revival, but to bring healing and outreach, just love on the city. So we're going to be offering free haircuts in every single city to children. We're going to be giving away bicycles and grocery cards every 10 minutes during those haircuts for the kids. And then we're going to host worship and we're going to give an opportunity for an altar call and for healing and for baptisms. And we're just going to spread the love of Jesus and share the gospel. [00:41:16] Speaker B: And there's all that on the website. If they want to talk about, to learn more about how to be a part of that. [00:41:20] Speaker A: The best way to find out everything about Mayday is to go to maydayusa.co has everything on there. And if you want to share, if you want to share with your friends, your family, your church, there's an entire press kit that's on there for free for anybody to utilize. Has the dates, it has the times, the locations. [00:41:40] Speaker B: Do you see vision going forward as these groups continue to kind of get momentum and grow? Is there an ambition to organize for policy change or, like, what is the end game here? [00:41:56] Speaker A: Yeah, so this is definitely. It's not just a revival movement, it's a reformation movement. And so we are actually already equipping people in this space as well. We have a free app that people can access. So again, if you just go to either one of those websites, you can get to this free app. But we provide civic resources. So we want to equip the body of Christ to learn how to vote and how to vote biblically, how that aligns with biblical principles. If they feel called to run for office, we have a course that can help them do that. If they feel called to their school boards, we have prayer hub leaders that actually go to school boards now. Doesn't necessarily mean you have to be an activist on a micro, but you can go to be what we call the sbi. You can be a school board intercessor, and you can just show up to pray. And it's amazing what that presence will do. [00:42:51] Speaker B: What are some of the policies that you're hoping to change? Do any come to mind in particular? Thinking about curriculum? We've got a lot of in Florida, especially the books that are in our libraries that, you know, the booksellers, it's my understanding the booksellers will smuggle in these LGBTQ books that will. The librarian will just put them on the shelves with the books that they ordered, and the next thing you know, it's impacting the children in that community. And so when you go into the school boards, are those the kind of things that you're concerned about or what? [00:43:33] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, absolutely. And that's an ongoing fight that we have here in Florida already. I know that that's hard to believe for some Floridians. They think that we live in such a conservative state, but there's a lot of this going right. Going on right under our nose, especially in the library. So this is where families and leaders, as well as just prayer hub leaders, you know, it's just an individual like you and me who has a heart for this, or they recognize that this is going on. I've actually got a prayer hub leader right here in Fernandina who is fighting that battle right now. And it's a lot of work. They don't make it easy to get those pornographic books removed. [00:44:10] Speaker B: Well, it's so strange to me because a lot of our school board leaders will run on a Christian platform, and at the same time, we can't see some of the books. They will not show us some of the books that they're, you know, with our tax money, buying and influencing our kids. But they say that the parents cannot see the material. [00:44:37] Speaker A: That's right. [00:44:38] Speaker B: I mean, it seems ludicrous. [00:44:39] Speaker A: Well, and the other piece of the process, which is just, in my opinion, demonic, is you have to. If you are a parent that is going to contest a book and request or petition for it to be removed, one of the people pieces of the process is you have to read it. So you have to Open up your mind, your heart to the pornographic material as well in order to even be able. And so does anybody else that's on the school board that is representing the school board in this session. And sometimes they only let you contest one book or maybe two books one month at a time. And we're talking about 40, 50, even 100 books that are still on the shelves for these kids to reach. [00:45:27] Speaker B: And a lot of it's in the counseling that takes place that, you know, it may not be on the shelf in the library, but a lot of times in the curriculum that they're using to shape these kids worldview. It's been difficult for us locally if we had a person that would run for office and would promise. We had one lady at the last session that it was a very tight race for the school board and she asked if I would pray for her. And I said, of course I'll pray for you. And I will publicly let it be known that I'm praying for you. All I ask is that you'll go to bat for transparency, that you'll be the person that says I'm going to let the parents see what's in these books. And you would think that people would line up to do that because we could move the needle on an election if we got involved. But I don't understand it. People like you and me who would come to the conclusion that it's not a good idea to let the parents see what's in the books. But if we just had people with the courage to run for office, we could change that. [00:46:42] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:46:43] Speaker B: And our churches are full of people that would qualify for it. [00:46:45] Speaker A: Absolutely. Absolutely. I think for me, what I've learned, and this is part of my own testimony, is that, you know, even without, we still have a lot of wounds within the church. You know, we have a lot of wounded Christians and we can't possibly operate within our true and full identity if we're making decisions from brokenness ourselves. And so there's so many Christians who feel discounted or dis. Disqualified and they're afraid, you know. And so if we can continue to rally together as the church and help minister to one another, disciple one another and grow, then God can raise each and every one of us up. Because here's what I believe and I've seen this time and time again in my own life. Everyone holds a key to someone else's breakthrough. Hands down, everywhere. Everyone. [00:47:40] Speaker B: I'm reminded of the verse where it says a double minded man is unstable in all of his ways. You Know, if we can be single minded about this and if we can stand together, we could change this country, you know, and quick. Do you see in the days ahead, do you see most of your work being in county level or in the state level or nationally? Where do you see the biggest challenges? [00:48:10] Speaker A: Goodness, that's a loaded question. I think there's a lane and a space for everyone at all of those levels. We absolutely need to start focusing more local. I think if we were to band together, let's say, let's just take our prayer hub, our prayer hubs, for instance, and if we come into fellowship with one another and say, hey, add families here in this county, we're going to focus on how can we make a difference, how can we fill the public spaces and places. Right. With kingdom principles just for our county, then. And if everybody did that, if we had a pillar that would raise up in every single one of our counties here in our state, then we could change our state. [00:48:51] Speaker B: Right. [00:48:52] Speaker A: And if we change our state, then we can start helping change the nation. I know the Lord has shown me Florida's about to explode with revival, but we have to follow it up with reformation. We have to follow it up. [00:49:04] Speaker B: Well, and you're right, if the Lord's showing you something, then if you're the only one he's showing it to, you might want to go back and check your sources and make real sure. Because typically he does nothing without first showing it to his prophets. And if he's working and he's revealing this to multiple people, you'll find that there's already a work underway. And you know, when you said that you've got someone in Fernandina, I'm like, I've got to meet this person because we need to work together. [00:49:40] Speaker A: That's right. [00:49:40] Speaker B: You know, and both movements that I'm a part of and that she's a part of could grow. [00:49:45] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:49:46] Speaker B: Do you know that the Citizens Defending Freedom people. [00:49:49] Speaker A: Yes. [00:49:49] Speaker B: Have you met Steve Maxwell or. [00:49:51] Speaker A: I have. I have, actually. We were in Melbourne, in the Melbourne area. They had an event last year. [00:49:57] Speaker B: Yeah, Steve's a dear friend. [00:49:59] Speaker A: Oh, that's amazing. [00:50:00] Speaker B: And so they've been super helpful for us here locally and getting us organized. Most, most of our people will do anything that we can for the good of our community and our country. We just don't know where to start. [00:50:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:14] Speaker B: So even showing up at a school board meeting is scary to a lot of people. And just to be able to show us, okay, here's what you do. Here's how it works. And a lot of times when it comes down to changing things, it's usually a precinct. It's not that you've got to win the whole county, you've got to win one precinct. And if you can move things there, you can change everything, you know. But they've got some very smart people. And when I hear of things like what you're doing, it so aligns with what they're doing and other movements that if we can just harness that momentum and get everybody pulling in the same direction, this would happen a lot quicker. [00:50:59] Speaker A: Absolutely. And actually, we do have some of their material and resources on that free app that I mentioned. So, yeah, we work with several other organizations because again, you know, this boils down to God has an assignment. Right. For every person. And why reinvent the wheel? We're not here to reinvent the wheel for people who are already doing it really well in their specific space. We want to unify, we want to partner, we want to collaborate, because that's where we can multiply. God will use that. Yeah. [00:51:30] Speaker B: Amen. Well, how can we pray for you and the days ahead as you start this tour and you're starting in New York and then going to Miami. [00:51:38] Speaker A: Yes. New York City on Monday. We'll be in Miami next Saturday, and then we'll continue the journey basically every single weekend through Houston, Seattle and la. [00:51:49] Speaker B: Excellent. [00:51:50] Speaker A: Yeah. So please just be covering our team, you know, as we, as we travel, that the resources will continue to come in to provide for what we are doing because. Because we want to bless these cities as much as we possibly can. And our teams are traveling from all over the country and just be praying too, that the hearts and the minds of the people that we're going to come into contact with will be softened and that we can just show his love. [00:52:22] Speaker B: If someone wants to reach out to you personally, is there a way for them to do that? Are you on social media? [00:52:28] Speaker A: I am. I'm on social media. Probably one of the fastest ways first would be to email jenniferloridaprayerhubs.com Again, if you register for a prayer hub on our website, then you would also automatically get connected to me as well. I help manage all of the directors across the entire nation for prayer hubs. And yeah, go to maydayusa.com that's really the most pressing thing. We want every man, woman, child, family to come and, and stand with us and to bless these communities, but we've got to unify together. [00:53:02] Speaker B: But we're going to sign up. It's new. I'm just being exposed to it. So we're going to help get our church on board and our people. Is it a 501C3? So if people want to donate. Do you accept donations? [00:53:19] Speaker A: Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. So again, if you go to just. I think the simplest way is to go to maydayusa. There is a giving link on there. It is a 501C3 through Jenny Donnelly's ministry and we also have the 501C4 because we do participate in a lot of reformation and civic strategies as well. [00:53:40] Speaker B: Right, that's excellent. Well, I'm glad to have you on the team. [00:53:43] Speaker A: Yeah, thank you. [00:53:44] Speaker B: You know, anytime I meet a warrior who's going out and taking new ground for the kingdom, it's exciting and there's a lot that we can learn from you and hopefully we can work together in the days ahead. [00:53:56] Speaker A: Absolutely. Yeah. Thank you so much. It's such an honor. [00:53:59] Speaker B: Well, thank you for being here.