Episode 61

June 14, 2026

01:06:52

Navy SEAL Sniper Opens Up About Jesus | Jared Hudson

Hosted by

Zach Terry

Show Notes

A Navy SEAL sniper sits down and gets real about the one thing combat never prepared him for: Jesus.

In this Code Red Talk episode, Pastor Zach Terry sits across from former Navy SEAL Jared Hudson — sniper, law enforcement investigator, anti-trafficking warrior, and seventh-generation Alabamian — for one of the most raw, faith-filled conversations we’ve ever recorded. From the battlefields of the Global War on Terror to a single-wide trailer where he gave his life to Christ at age six, Jared shares the testimony, the scars, and the unshakable convictions that drive him.

This isn’t politics-as-usual. It’s two men of faith talking about spiritual warfare, fatherhood, the offense of the Gospel, what really happens to a man’s soul in the “dark places,” and why love will always outfight hate. Whether you came for the SEAL stories or the Scripture, you’re going to walk away challenged.

▶ Watch to the end — the answer to “how do you guard your soul?” will stick with you.

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⏱ Chapters / Timestamps

0:00  – Cold open

0:31  – Welcome to the Code Red Studio

0:45  – “The horse is made ready, but victory rests on the Lord”

1:01  – The challenge: rename a road “Code Red Boulevard”

1:45  – Seven generations of Alabama farmers

5:44  – The Davy Crockett bloodline

6:36  – “Sometimes the best weapon isn’t a bullet — it’s a ballot”

6:55  – SEAL Team 3, sniper school & the road to Green Team

7:13  – When a SEAL career ends

7:29  – How a Navy SEAL came to know Jesus

7:56  – The missionary years in Turkey

10:15  – Saved at six years old in a single-wide trailer

12:36  – Leading his own daughters to Christ

13:40  – “Jesus doesn’t have a number” — a 4-year-old’s faith

15:06  – Explaining the Trinity to a six-year-old

18:24  – God incarnate, NOT reincarnate (correcting the record)

20:22  – “The darkest place may not be the war zone…”

26:08  – Power doesn’t change you — it reveals you

27:15  – Why a bribe exposes the heart that was already there

35:45  – How he guards his soul in the dark places

37:50  – Bound by the blood of his fallen brothers

38:17  – The Daniel principle: staying rooted in any kingdom

41:45  – Hunting for demons in the halls of D.C.

44:45  – “I didn’t come to bring peace, but a sword”

45:26  – Sin is crouching at the door (the lesson from Cain)

47:27  – What he really thinks of the people who hate him

49:54  – Why screens make people braver and crueler

51:45  – “I don’t hate what’s in front of me — I love what’s behind me”

54:26  – Why love outfights hate

55:53  – The grenade story: greater love has no man

57:45  – Where he stands: life begins at conception

59:17  – Judeo-Christian roots & the First Amendment

1:04:16  – “This seat belongs to the people of Alabama”

1:05:51  – A message to the kids who want to be just like him

Links & Resources

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Covenant Rescue Group (guest’s anti-trafficking nonprofit): https://www.covenantrescue.org

About Code Red Talk

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Episode Transcript

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Sad. Welcome not to the Code Red studio. That's normally what I say. But thank you for having us in the war room today. [00:00:37] Speaker B: Yeah, man, it's awesome to be here. I appreciate y' all coming in, setting up and helping us out by coming to us, because we're going everywhere all over the state right now. [00:00:45] Speaker A: Well, I hope we can. I hope we can move the needle a little bit in your favor. It doesn't look like it looks like it's already moving some pretty heavy momentum in your favor. [00:00:55] Speaker B: God has blessed us tremendously. You know, Proverbs 21:31. The horse is made ready for day of battle, but victory rests on the Lord. And that's what we're doing. You know, we made the horse ready for the day of battle, and right now it's all on him. God's paved an unbelievable path. We'll just keep walking down it. [00:01:08] Speaker A: Hear you. So here's the deal. You know, if somehow it can be proved beyond the shadow of a doubt, let's say from this time till election day, and let's say if you win, that could be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. As a direct result of this episode, I'm going to make one request of you. [00:01:27] Speaker B: All right, Go ahead. [00:01:28] Speaker A: I want the name of Dancy Chapel Road in Trinity, Alabama, changed to Code Red Boulevard. [00:01:34] Speaker B: All right? We'll see if we can. [00:01:36] Speaker A: I know you can. You can't guarantee it, but you can [00:01:38] Speaker B: at least bring it on people that might at least, you know, be able to make it happen. [00:01:42] Speaker A: So that's what you and I, that's one of the main things we have, and we have a lot in common. A couple of things that are very much not in common, but we have in common. We have the fact that we are very many generations in the state of Alabama. I think I read you were seven. Is that correct? [00:01:58] Speaker B: Seven. So. And I didn't know that until my uncle, of all people, who really follows our family tree, he's still up in Etowah county, and he really follows our family tree. And he told me when we started this out, he said, hey, you're a seventh generation Alabamian. And that's pretty amazing, right? My mom and dad actually met at Liberty when they were in school together and got married. And I was actually born in Lynchburg, Virginia. When I was like, one years old, we moved back to Alabama, to Gadsden, where my family is. And that's. That's where I was raised until we moved here to. [00:02:31] Speaker A: Is that where the. The over your roots are at or in Gadsden. [00:02:35] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean that's at least my earliest memories on my granddaddy's farm. We lived in a trailer on his farm and, and grew up running around. He was. Now I. I didn't know this either at the time. You know, I just knew as a farmer, had cows, beef cows and specialty crops. So he was known as a specialty crop farmer, which is just corn, watermelons, green beans, peppers, tomatoes, all that stuff. And so he did that. And my uncle was also especially crop farmer now and an electrician, but he has a blueberry farm called Tabor Oaks Farm there in. In. On Tabor Road in Gadsden, Alabama. [00:03:03] Speaker A: How cool. So do you know the. The deep history of Gadsden? The dark history? Do you know any Jack? [00:03:09] Speaker B: No. No. Well, now I know. So General Forest Middle School, where I went to middle school, and Emma Sampson, the high school. They're gone now, but right there it in the. The Black Creek was where they. She showed them a low spot. Emma Sampson showed General Forrest a low spot to be able to drag their cannons across the river. Yeah, so that's a piece of history. [00:03:30] Speaker A: I remember being told, yeah, I'm a big Civil War buff. This is more recent. So back in the 70s, it was a cooling off place where the mob would go hang out when the heat was on, of all places. You know, you'd suddenly be in Gadsden, Alabama. And I know this because I've preached at Meadowbrook there in Gadsden, different places and, and so I would talk to some of the old timers. They would tell us, oh yeah, it would be the weirdest thing. You'd see like nine Cadillacs, black Cadillacs parked in front of a house and next thing you know, somebody's tractor blew up. [00:04:02] Speaker B: Oh yeah, man. Doing all that crazy stuff. Now you said you preached at Meadowbrook. I don't know what it was. You know Steve Roberts? I don't know Steve. So Steve, he taught me. He did music at Meadowbrook for all. That's my uncle. Okay, so he did it for a while, but that might have been after you were preaching. [00:04:13] Speaker A: Michael Bozeman was a youth pastor. [00:04:16] Speaker B: Okay. [00:04:16] Speaker A: Guy named Josh Malone. This was back when I was cool. So did you stuff. So Randy was the pastor and then Michael Bozeman. Did you ever know Michael Bennington? Funniest guy you'll ever meet. [00:04:29] Speaker B: Hey, I might have met some of those guys, but I was a kid at the time, [00:04:33] Speaker A: so we were multi generation. I was trying to count it back today to see how Close. We were in Alabama. Our people came down from the Carolinas on a land grant land promise. If you farm the land, you get it for free. And so they came down and planted their life, they blood, sweat and tears in the soil of Alabama. And I'm sure yours were the same. [00:04:54] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. So a family of farmers from that Gadsden area, and I believe my great great grandmother was a full blooded Cherokee Indian. So there was that side of the family as well. But again, I haven't spent time going through my family tree and learning it like a lot of people do. But my uncle's the one who's done it. And so that's what he relayed to me when we started running for office here. He's like, hey, dude, you're a seventh generation Alabamian. They start putting that out. [00:05:21] Speaker A: So, like, every family's got that guy, you know, they got one of those guys that they really go deep in the history. And so I'm that guy in our [00:05:27] Speaker B: family, and my Uncle Jeff's that guy in my family. Yeah. [00:05:29] Speaker A: So dad used to say, son, I wish you would leave that alone. You're gonna find out something you don't like in there somewhere, you know? And he was right. He was right. There was some good stuff, there was some bad stuff. Was a weird. It was the brother of Davy Crockett, so was a descendant of his brother. He didn't have sons of his own, but we were from that line. So that was kind of cool, you know, something to kind of brag to your grandkids about and a little bit of history. [00:05:54] Speaker B: That is pretty cool, man. You know, Davy Crockett, what, he killed a bear when he was only three. Right. [00:05:57] Speaker A: All those stories are absolutely true. And he, you know, he. But he was also a politician. [00:06:03] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, he was. I mean, that's what he was trying to, I think. Didn't he lose his congressional race when he went to the Alamo? And part of going to the Alamo was trying to boost his congressional race or boost his, you know, support so he could go back to the. Back to Congress. [00:06:19] Speaker A: They voted him out. And he said, you all can go to, you know, Missouri, I'm going to Texas. [00:06:23] Speaker B: That's right. [00:06:24] Speaker A: And so. But there's a lot in common. He was. He was a man who knew how to wield a blade. He was a man who knew how to shoot. And he was a man who knew that sometimes the best weapons are not always bullets. Sometimes they're ballots. [00:06:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:38] Speaker A: And so you remind me a lot of the stories that we hear of him. You've got some stories of your own that the Lord used you in the SEAL teams. What SEAL team were you a part of? Where did you serve? [00:06:50] Speaker B: So I was at Seal Team 3. I was a West coast team guy and went to sniper school. And then when I got out of the SEAL Teams, I was actually slated as an instructor for sniper school. And I'd screen positive for green team. So that's the. The black soft side of what we do within the SEAL teams. And so I'd scream positive for that to be able to go and try out. But during that time, went through some medical things that didn't allow me to be a SEAL anymore and started the process of getting out and got out and became a law enforcement officer here. So that was kind of the transition from the teams to here. [00:07:26] Speaker A: I want to hear more about that. But before that, tell us how you came to know Jesus. Your dad and I share an occupation, both Baptist preachers. So what was that like? [00:07:35] Speaker B: So dad so grew up, obviously in a Christian home with grandparents, aunts, uncles, mom and dad. Everybody believers, right? So I grew up with the gospel of Christ being presented to me from a young age, probably before I could even remember or walk or talk or anything. I didn't know this. My dad was telling stories and when he was finishing his whatever your like your seminary and then whatever other specific things, he went into Islamic studies because we became missionaries when I was a little over to Turkey. So we were in Turkey for a little while as missionaries. With that being said, he used to read the Bible or papers he was writing about scripture, whatever it was to me when I was a baby laying in the bed with him or laying on his chest before he graduated and we moved back to. Back to Gadsden. So this is at Liberty in Lynchburg, Virginia. [00:08:34] Speaker A: What years was he in Turkey? [00:08:35] Speaker B: That's a great question. I want to say it was because all of us were born. So my youngest brothers and sisters, I think, were born in 88, so it might have been 89 and 90. We were just there for a year, probably less than a year, because God literally pulled the plug on the missions work for mom and dad and moved us back here. And that's my dad's story, and it's his testimony. I was probably. I was born in 86. I'm 40. I was probably 4 or 5 at the time. And I remember portions and pieces of Turkey. And I know my brothers and sisters were there. So it was 89 or 90. [00:09:11] Speaker A: So cool thing Having watched this episode, but especially having watched the previous. Hadiya Falco was a lady who was over Islamic intel basically for the State Department at the time, and one of the. One of the deep think tanks people who studied all the different branches of Islam and tracked what was going on in each country. And so she was basically a liberal Muslim at the time, later was gloriously saved, met Jesus and now is just going around and kind of doing that work for how we can connect with Muslims as Christians, lead them to Christ. So she was on probably at the same time, was probably at the State Department that you guys were over in Turkey. So that might be some interesting maybe. [00:09:58] Speaker B: So that's pretty cool. [00:09:59] Speaker A: So you came back. Do you remember that, the time when you gave your life to Christ? [00:10:04] Speaker B: I do. So it wasn't long after that. I remember specifically the night we lived in a trailer, a double wide trailer on my granddaddy's farm. Just to. [00:10:12] Speaker A: So y' all were big shots? [00:10:13] Speaker B: Yeah, we were big shots. Yeah. [00:10:15] Speaker A: So I was born in trailer. We were single wide. [00:10:19] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. Now, now the. And I don't remember this, but apparently the trailer we lived in in Lynchburg when Mom and dad, or really dad was finishing school was a single wide. [00:10:29] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:10:30] Speaker B: Up there. Yeah. And then we moved back. We had, we lived with grandmother Granddaddy for a little while till they got a double wide. So it was nice, you know, it was a nice double wide trip. [00:10:36] Speaker A: We said, we said, if you got a single wide, if you got a double wide and a trampoline, then you're really riding. [00:10:41] Speaker B: You're doing something. That's right. You're doing something. But I remember walking out of my bed one night, walking into mom and Dad's room and just, you know, tell them as a little boy, I was six, and telling them, hey, you know, I want to ask Jesus into my heart. We went to a church called Trinity Baptist Church. It was just up the road from where we lived now I think it's called Higher Ground Baptist Church. But anyway, went and told them that. And they walked me through the Romans road at the time, the sinner's prayer. And then dad spent a few days with me even after that, making sure that I understood. And as a child, you don't necessarily understand, but what I knew is I needed Christ. He needed to be my Lord and Savior. And it was only by him that I could be healed from my sins. Right. I mean, as a child, you don't know. But now that we're. Now that I'm an adult, I see. 1 Peter 2:24 that he hung on that cursed tree and he died to sin. Our sin lived in righteousness. He was raised from the dead in his own righteousness and we are able to now live in his righteousness. And, and it's by his stripes we are healed. As a kid, I didn't grasp that scripture, but I remember knowing it, right? I know, hey, this is the only way. Even as a child, as a six year old. And so I asked Jesus into my heart and that was then. Obviously working out your salvation is something you have to do. It's not that you're saved by works, you're saved by grace through faith. The works are just the fruit that the grace and the faith bears in your life, right? It's the parable of the soils, right? The heart is the soil. So anyway, all that being said, asking Jesus into my life when I was young and the most amazing thing, my brothers and sisters were all, or my brothers and sister were all about the same. They're all six or seven when they came to know Christ. One thing I've noticed is presenting Christ to my kids, they have done the same thing. My oldest, when she was 6, she asked Jesus into her life, came and asked me about it. We spent a few days in the scripture walking through it. My middle daughter, who's now 8, she asked Christ into her life when she was 6. And then my 4 year old, now she's a maniac, you know. And I said, but at some point in time we do know that the Lord will pierce her heart in that same way. And the most amazing thing, this was her first year in vacation Bible school. My four year old, we do Bible verses, we do stories every night. The Bible tells us this very specifically in Proverbs. Train up a child in the way they should go when they're old, they won't depart from it. So we're trying to train our girls in this way. I am, my wife is friends, families, we try to surround mom and dad, grandparents, aunts, uncles, we're trying to surround ourselves with people that will speak the love of Christ into their life, that speak the gospel into their life. So they have a great foundation as they go up through all the craziness that goes on in our world. The four year old told me the other night, especially during the campaign and stuff being gone a lot, a lot of times I'll come home and they'll already be in my bed or I'll get in bed and they'll want to come. They'll wake up to see me, Want to come get in bed with me? She was laying beside me in my bed and my wife went upstairs to sleep in her bed. And so the 4 year old's laying there, she said, daddy, she said, jesus doesn't have a number. And I said, what do you mean Jesus? She said, allah's number is four. She's four years old. She said, jesus died. Oh, so yeah, Jesus doesn't have age. She goes, no, he doesn't have a number. He's been here forever. And I said, that's right baby. And she said, and you're big and strong, daddy, but Jesus is big and strong too. He's more big and strong than you. And I said, that's right, he does. And she said, and he loves us very much. Now this is a four year old saying just regurgitating the things that she's learned in vacation Bible school. So back to my experience as a six year old, I'm now seeing in my own kids. And when that is poured into your life, that's why at such an early age you see the Holy Spirit working in children, in young people. And Jesus even says, the faith of a child is what you need to have. Right. And don't let anybody lead any of these children astray. If you believe you're a teacher and you lead one of these little ones astray. And it's not just children, it's even those who don't know the faith. It's better that you had a millstone tied around your neck and you throw [00:14:57] Speaker A: it in the ocean. [00:14:58] Speaker B: So anyway, that's my experience. [00:15:00] Speaker A: Yeah, and that was our kids experience. We would have those same kind of talks. We had a back porch swing. And my daughter would go out there and say, dad, Trinity, explain the Trinity. We're talking at 6. And I would try my best, give it the best shot. And I said, sweetie, Augustine said, if you try to explain the Trinity, you'll lose your mind. If you deny it, you lose your soul. And she would just sort of sit back and it seemed like she got it. And I thought how profound that a kid at that age could even comprehend in the ballpark of a three in one God. And then my son, and they're all in the faith today, all walking with Jesus in church. We're so thankful for that. My son came out, he wanted to kind of match that question, you know, I want to be real profound. He said, dad, so I've got a question. He said, you know at church when we're singing, I said, yeah, sing, worship Songs. He said, the words, they just change automatically. I said, yeah. He said, how does that happen? I said, well, there's a guy in the back, but not quite as profound [00:16:06] Speaker B: as the one my daughter is. That's right. That's right. [00:16:09] Speaker A: But second thing we got in common, young man who grew up as a son of a pastor who's also sees in his future one day maybe God using him in civic service. And so let me say this. I've checked out as much as a podcaster can, your background and your previous episodes. You sat down about a year ago on the Sean Ryan Show. [00:16:33] Speaker B: That was about two years ago now, or a year and a half ago. Yeah. [00:16:36] Speaker A: And so, you know, the way you're speaking to me as a pastor, I would presume some would assume, well, it's because he's talking to a preacher, you know, who is he with another guy. And Sean at that time, you know, Sean's been on a trajectory of faith all through the years, but I don't know where he had landed at that point in time. But, you know, they can go back and check that episode. You were just as articulate about your faith and what you believe and where you stand on that episode as you are in front of a Baptist preacher today. So I appreciate that. I know our viewers appreciate that. [00:17:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:13] Speaker A: Is who you are. [00:17:15] Speaker B: And that's the most important thing. It's got to be who you are. Right. And if Christ is in me, he's going to exude from me. Right. A saltwater spring and a freshwater spring can't produce the same. It's either one or the other. Right. And it's the same thing. We can't go around cursing other people and claim Christ because we're not in Christ. What should exude out of us first? John 4:19. We love because he first loved us. That should exude from us, from our hearts. Now, I don't always get that right, man. I do a terrible job. Praise God, that Christ has changed my life, because I am the worst. As Paul says, I'm the chief sinner. But it's important that he is the wellspring that speaks from us. And it's the Holy Spirit pouring out him and him crucified to the world, because we need him more than we need anything else, more than we need a senator, more than we need a politician, more than we need a pastor, more than we need another family vacation. As I tell my wife all the time, because she always wants to go on a vacation, it's like, hey, Mama, there ain't a money tree in the backyard. But more than anything, that we need, we need Christ, and Christ crucified. I will say this, though. I said something on Sean Ryan, so my dad got onto me for it. I kept saying that Christ is God reincarnated. That is not. Is Jesus is God incarnate. And when I was saying it, I remember going back then, I was listening to it. I was like, I'm such an idiot. [00:18:37] Speaker A: No, no, you're not an idiot. You're on. You're on one of the biggest podcasts. Podcast in the country. But I did think, I wonder if that bothered his dad. [00:18:47] Speaker B: It bothered me when I heard it, because what I was thinking is, when you accept Christ, who is God incarnate, you are reincarnated into eternal life. This is what my mind was thinking, but it's not what my mouth was saying. [00:18:59] Speaker A: Yeah, that's awesome. That's awesome because that was my first [00:19:01] Speaker B: thought, because that is distinctly different. Right, right. John, chapter one. In the beginning was the Word. The Word was God. The Word was with God. Verse 14, the Word became flesh and dwelt among them. And that is God incarnate. Jesus is God on earth. He's not God reincarnate like we know some people believe, which is a totally different message than the Gospel that we see preached out through the New Testament. [00:19:25] Speaker A: No, no, it's beautiful. And I was watching that, followed through the program, and I was watching, watching Sean and, you know, great, great podcaster, great question, great history with serving our country and all that. But, yeah, just watching. And I have watched just the evolution of what God is doing in his heart and his mind, and guys like Rogan and all these guys who are. Obviously, they weren't having these conversations a decade ago. [00:19:56] Speaker B: That's right. [00:19:56] Speaker A: Right. So something's taking place there. I'm wondering. You've been in some of the darkest places in the world through service. You've been in places where you've had to draw the sword, as it were. But I've got friends in D.C. i've got a son who's considering a future in some form of civic service. And I'm not convinced that the darkest places in the world are the middle of the war zone. It might be on the Senate floor. [00:20:33] Speaker B: Oh, no. Yeah, 100%. I even think beyond. I don't even think it's on the Senate floor. I think it's everything that surrounds that. And I've learned that just in one year of politics, in over a year, that we've been doing this since my wife And I spent time praying about it. We announced the biggest issue and the most disgusting thing. And I work in human trafficking now. But the most disgusting thing that I've seen in this is partiality. And we know in James, it tells us where partiality exists, exists every form of sin. [00:21:03] Speaker A: I've never thought of that. [00:21:04] Speaker B: God hates partiality. And that's the first thing I've seen. When you talk to these politicos, as it were, they are partial to certain people. If it's people that can move us in a certain way or they're partial to. Even politicians are partial to people who might endorse them or do it, they're going to say what they have to say to be to be accepted. Now, I will tell you on the other side of that, my words, especially as a runoff Senate candidate for the state of Alabama, right. So my words now I have to be even more careful with what I say. I had a guy come up and ask me about something today that I had no idea to him was offensive. And I said, brother, I'm sorry, I had no idea it was offensive. But it wasn't even what I said. I think it was how I said it. And you have to be careful because of the platform that you have. If I'm going to offend somebody, it's going to be with the gospel of Christ. It's going to be with the truth on the other side. If I'm going to offend somebody, it's going to be with the truth of what's right and what's just and what we should be open and transparent about. And the government generally seems to shroud a lot of things, and they're not transparent. [00:22:18] Speaker A: Right. [00:22:19] Speaker B: And part of that comes through partiality, partiality toward other people, other organizations where they might get money as opposed to the voters they're elected to represent. Because it's the voters, it's the citizens. It's we the people that are in charge of this state and this nation, not the elected officials. [00:22:38] Speaker A: Well, and the state in particular, you know, we moved down to tech, down to Florida, almost said Texas are very similar. We moved down to the great free state of Florida, as we like to call it. It's been almost next month will be nine years. We've lived in Florida prior to that. Alabama's had been home our entire life till I was about your age. And so we love this state. We want it represented well. We want the things that we are now enjoying in Florida under DeSantis and our representatives and congressmen, our senators down In Florida, a lot of great things are happening. We want those things for Alabama so much, and we want to see the state of Alabama prosper as well as any state in the nation. And I know you feel the same way. That said, we've got one senator, we've got your competitor that are both from the same part of the state, which historically has never occurred, the best that I can tell. And so these guys are both from the Enterprise region. [00:23:47] Speaker B: They are, yes. I think their neighbors, I think their families live right beside each other. [00:23:52] Speaker A: And so great city, great history. Down in Enterprise, there's so much that we would champion. I use the Bo Weevil story quite often when I'm preaching so, so much we would champion about Enterprise, Alabama, but I'm not from there. I'm from the northern part of the state. My stomping grounds were probably anywhere from Decatur, Alabama, down to Birmingham. You know, if we saved up money, we'd come to Birmingham. [00:24:16] Speaker B: That's right. [00:24:18] Speaker A: We'd do some hunting down around Fultondale. And my wife came out of Hayleeville. And so that's an odd. When you notice that darkness, which is a real thing, evil is a real thing. But when it surrounds. You know, when I said that some of the darkest places may be in the Senate, you said, no, it's that stuff that's around that surrounds may not be. And I don't know your competitor. I don't know him well enough to know who's the better man or who's the best man for this race at this time. So with all due respect, I would say that it might not be the healthiest thing for the state to have representation that closely in proximity to one another. It seems to be an easy target for lobbyists or special interest. [00:25:14] Speaker B: Well, and it's, you know, when the president picks the vice president. Right. President runs for office, and they're going to pick their vice president and run alongside them. You can't pick a vice president from your same state. I didn't even know that until recently when somebody was talking about it. [00:25:27] Speaker A: There's a reason for it. [00:25:28] Speaker B: There's a reason for it, and it should be the same thing here. We don't need representation from two different ends or from the same end of the state. We need representation from two different ends of the state. And in this case, me being from north Alabama. North Alabama, boy. With family all over. From even up in your neck of the woods. Right. When we were talking about Rich earlier. Right. So we've got family from here all the way to Huntsville, all The way over to Etowah county and this is where we're from. The representation for the state then is total as opposed to that representation being located, like you said, in one spot, which runs the risk of, you know, that spot being represented more heavily than the rest of Alabama. One thing I would mention to you as well though, with the outside groups, I have noticed this when you look at representatives, they don't go to Washington and change. Everybody thinks, oh, you go to Washington and it changes you. No it doesn't. It exaggerates who you already are. It reveals the person you already are. And that's anything that's being a seal, that's in law enforcement, that's in business, that's in the ministry, what you work in, anywhere you go, the position itself doesn't actually change the person, it just reveals who they are. [00:26:45] Speaker A: It amplifies it. [00:26:46] Speaker B: It amplifies it. [00:26:47] Speaker A: Good or bad. [00:26:49] Speaker B: Good or bad. It amplifies it. And the one thing that you see is that, and it tells us this in Proverbs and Ecclesiastes. So this is Solomon, the wisest man, right, telling us these things. It says that a bribe perverts justice. That is the one thing that can create a shift is I might have the heart for justice, but if I'm willing to accept a bribe, it perverts it. And that's why when you look at it, it's not the bribe that changes the person, that is the person who would have accepted it anyway. And it perverts the justice that was supposed to be provided by that position. [00:27:28] Speaker A: So let's talk seven generations of Alabama, both from center north. We both love southern Alabama, Louisiana, lower Alabama love the whole state. [00:27:41] Speaker B: Biolo Batrie, Mobile, [00:27:45] Speaker A: learned a deep sea fish. We went to Destin on our honeymoon and fished offshore there and now moved to the beach. So that kind of got in our blood. But I'm going to presume something that I don't know to be true about you. But if your family legacy is like mine, we've always generally been Christian. We had some that probably are better representatives than others. But up until I'm going to say my grandparents generation, we would not even consider voting for a Republican. We voted Democrat. Was it the same for your family? We were farmers and we weren't thinking in moral terms outside of what was best to make sure that our farm survived. And that was usually the Democrat that was going to be representing our interests back then. And so do you find that in your family history? [00:28:40] Speaker B: You know, I haven't looked back as much. I do know that up to my grandparents, like you said, they voted Democrat, but I'm not even sure that they voted Democrat even when I was alive. I mean, it was in the 90s that that kind of shifted. [00:28:54] Speaker A: Well, Clinton was the best thing to happen to the Republican Party. [00:28:57] Speaker B: Yeah. So there you go. That all shifted in the 90s. When I was a kid, I know my dad never voted Democrat. I know he was not a Democrat. And he was pretty anti Democrat and pro Republican even early on. He's, you know, he's almost 70. I think he's 68 right now. So from what I remember, yes, grandparents, great grandparents, all them voted Democrat back in the day. But that's only from what I heard. I wasn't even alive, I think, when they were voting. [00:29:25] Speaker A: My grandmother was the mayor of our hometown, little hometown Moulton, Alabama for 16 years. And so she was outspoken. And my granddad would come home, watch Fox News every night, and he thought he would agree with them. He couldn't understand. He wanted to get mad. He's watching Fox News, faithful Democratic voter, and he would agree with what these guys were saying and it would bother him. And so I always thought I could get him. He came to Christ late in life. She came to Christ much earlier. I always thought I could convert her over at some point. Being a Republican as well, never convinced her. She went to her grave. But in North Alabama, where I'm from, there are more Terries than you can shake a stick at. I mean, they're everywhere. This particular Morgan county, we would have 15 pages of a phone book. I'm not kidding. It was ridiculous how many Terries. It was very difficult to name the children because all the names were taken. And still to this day, the Terry Club meets up in Lawrence County, Alabama, and all of the state races, if it lands at the right time of the year, go up in politic up there. And that's happened from Wallace on. I mean, I remember George Wallace would come to that. So I'm speaking now not as just the pastor of a church in Florida, but as Terry from north Alabama represents a lot of people, a lot of people that had a lot of kids that are of voting age right now. And all they've ever heard is, we're Southern Democrats and we wish a rich man would vote like that. The old lyrics to the song. So here's what I observed, and I wonder if it resonates with you. I think it was Reagan who said, I once was a Democrat and I didn't leave them. They left me so somewhere along the way, the issues became less and less. When you turn on the news and you hear Democratic talking head, it's less and less about, you know, taking care of the family farmer, less and less about making sure that we can afford the cost of living and lowering health care and all that. It's all of this ideological lgbtq. It seems that. And hating Trump seems to be all that they can talk about right now. [00:31:53] Speaker B: Well, especially now. And, you know, my granddaddy has said it. He talked about. And again, like I said, for me, these are just hearing the stories of kind of this. My great grandmother was very much hardliner for the Democrat Party. My great granddaddy was, and I knew them as a kid, but they died when I was young. I want to say they died in the early to mid-90s. Paw Paw and grandmother and great grandmother worked when Pawpaw was deployed. He was in World War II. He went in on D Day, but she had to work in a local factory. And that was where she did not like the Republicans because they were for these factories that would work people, not pay people, send them away, and then bring somebody else in. And so now this is just a story that he's telling. How true it is, I don't know. But that was kind of the mindset, especially during that War War II into the Korean War and into the Vietnam War time frame. They were dealing with a lot of that that was left over from the big industry boom and push, where they were not for Republicans, they were very much for the Democrats, because the Democrats were for the people, as he said. So I guess that would make sense with what Reagan said. The party left me, and I think you see that now. Everything's how at the moon. Everything's just crazy stuff that nobody even wants to. Are you kidding me? Why are we even using government to talk about half this stuff that y' all were talking about? [00:33:23] Speaker A: I think. I think a lot of our. A lot of our viewers who are natively Republican, they're going to vote Republican either way. They're just trying to figure out which one this particular race. You know, one of the things that we desperately want to accomplish is we want them to show up. You know, we want them to show up at the polls because there's a tendency to skip races. You know, when you come down to a primary, when you vote in between two candidates that are good candidates, it's tempting to stay home. Or if you feel like your candidate's got it in the bag, he feels like it. You know, maybe stay Home. So we want them to come out and vote. But what I'm hoping to accomplish here as well is some of my family that I love deeply that may think I drank the Kool Aid and left the. The party or something. I want them to consider that I'm sitting across from a man who grew up a lot like we did. Yeah, you know, we grew up hunting, fishing. We grew up going to church on Sundays. And if you're like me, it was Sunday morning, Sunday night, Wednesday night, Bible school, training union. All the stuff. Grew up the same way that we did. Shares the same values that we share. Share our people didn't come from money. You go back seven generations in our family, nobody owned a slave. You go back and look, we were working the same fields they were working, so there was never any, like, hatred between races. My father was a pallbearer at a black man's funeral when I was a young kid. And I just considered that normal. That was just normal life. And so the world that we live in today, I think I'm inviting them maybe to think less party and just think a little bit more about representation. Who's going to represent who we are and stand for what we believe in? And as I sit across from you, I wish I could vote for you. I don't live in the state of Alabama now. I wish I could. [00:35:32] Speaker B: The old joke is, call a Democrat and they'll tell you how. [00:35:35] Speaker A: Well, there you go. Yeah. But with that said, speak for a little bit as you go into that dark place of politics. How do you guard your soul? How do you stay true to the soil? How do you stay true to the land? The man that you were raised to be, what is your game plan? [00:35:57] Speaker B: Yeah. So, number one, obviously being bound by the blood of Christ, Right? I'm bound by the blood of my Savior. And part of not taking the Lord's name in vain is not saying that I'm rooted in him, I'm bound by Him, I'm covered in his blood. But then go in. And as we see in the New Testament, talk about crucifying Christ again. We don't need to do that. So the first thing is, I'm bound by his blood. The second thing is, I'm bound by the blood of my brothers who died on deployments that we went on, brothers who are still dying even after I've left the SEAL teams, making sure that I earn their sacrifice on behalf of the people I'm elected to represent. Because when they died, when they gave their life, they didn't do it for partisan issues. [00:36:39] Speaker A: So you feel like you owe something? [00:36:40] Speaker B: Oh, 100% owe something. You know, I owe everything to my Savior, Jesus. Right. Because I would never be able to attain the glory of God without him who died to my sins so that I might live in his righteousness. I am always trying to take on his yoke because I know his yoke is easy and his burden is light. The yoke of sin is unbearable and we can't bear it. He bore it for us. So I'm bound to him. I owe him. That's why he is Lord and Savior. I am bought by Christ on the other side, my brothers that I served with those who gave their lives regardless of what they believed. It wasn't a partisan issue. They died for their brothers beside them. They died for their country. They died in service to this country, to the U.S. constitution, and to the people of this nation, regardless if people realized that or not. It wasn't a political, you know, political thing of while we're in Afghanistan or Iraq or wherever it is that that anybody deploys to and gave their life, at least during the global war on terror that I fought in. It doesn't matter, because it wasn't partisan politics for them. It was truly for the love of country. And so I'm bound by their blood. But the last thing I'll give you, and it's scriptural principle, Daniel changed four kings and two kingdoms. And it tells us how he did it when he was a young man, when he was taken away into slavery into the Babylonian empire. Initially it said that he set in his heart the way he would go and that he would honor his God regardless of what they told him to do. Right? And you see Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. Right? And that was their Babylonian names. I think it was Azariah, Mishael and Ananiah were the actual Hebrew names that they had. You see them go into the fiery furnace. You see Daniel under another king, going to the lion's den. There were people who were always after them politically. But he set in his heart the way he would go and that he wouldn't dishonor his God. And he served the people as a slave who was elevated to one of the highest governors in the land. He served the people in justice and righteousness because God made it happen. And then the last thing you can say, and the Bible talks about this, it names three men who were righteous enough to deliver themselves, but not the city they were in. And we know who those three men are. It was Noah before the flood, it was Job who God said, have you considered my servant Job, who's righteous and blameless in my sight? And it was Daniel. And that's an interesting thing. If you were named as one of that, Jared Hudson would never be named as one of those men. These men were righteous. And what makes them righteous? It tells us that in Abraham he had faith in God and it was accounted to him as righteousness. Daniel rooted himself in God regardless of what kingdom he was a part of and regardless of what wicked practices those kingdoms, those Gentile kingdoms were pushing out at the time. Daniel stayed rooted in God, confided in God, and elevated God above all else, our God, Yahweh, the God that sent Jesus Christ and Christ crucified the Word that became flesh and dwelt among men. The same God we worship is the same God Daniel worshiped. And that is an important piece that keeps you from changing when the world around you is unbelievably dark and unbearable. And the last piece of that, Ephesians, chapter 6, verse 10, starts off now the whole book of Ephesians, right? Or the whole chapter of Ephesians, Chapter 6 is about the hierarchy of military order. It starts out with children. Obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. But then it goes all the way down and tells us why we need this hierarchy of children, wives, husbands, bosses and masters, and then servants all the way into. Take up the armor of God so that you can stand firm against the evil one. Why? Because In Ephesians, chapter 6, verse 8 through 10, I believe it is where he says, we fight against principalities and powers in the dark places. We fight a spiritual war not against flesh and blood, but against spiritual powers in a realm that we can't even see. It is unbelievably important that we understand that it's not just what's happening here physically, it is 100% spiritual. It's 100% spiritual. So understanding that is already a help in the fight. If you're going to be in a world where the forces are unrelenting, never ending, just an unstoppable force is against you all the time. Become an immovable object and allow yourself to the movable object of Christ, the rock of Christ that our foundation is built on, as opposed to the House of Sam. [00:41:32] Speaker A: We had the privilege of opening congress in prayer a couple of years ago, and I was invited up and Julie and I went a little early. We took several people from our church. Congressman Aaron Bean is one of our church members. So we go up and we're touring and we go to all the museums. And I said, I'm really confused. I said, by my theological position and persuasion, I would presume if Satan or a really high ranking demon, I don't know where Satan's throne is today, but you know, I would think it would be in either like a city like D.C. or London or Beijing. You know, it would make sense to me. So if it's not Satan, it's one of his top demons I would think would be in Washington D.C. and I said, so quite frankly, I expected when we get here to see pornography everywhere. That's what I thought, that it would be explicit in your face, kind of like parts of New Orleans maybe. I found that not to be the case, but I found it was a different approach, a different tactic. We walk through the museums and we read, oh, you've been here for billions and billions of years and life was just an accident. All of these things that you experience that you call beauty, well, that's just the firing of electrons in your brain. And what you would feel when you look into your daughter's eyes, that love, well, that's just something that evolution has produced from, for the procreation of the species. And I thought how intelligent that is. Because if you can get people to buy into that ideology that their life is meaningless, the world is meaningless, you can get them, oh, and there's no accountability at the end of the day. That's right, sleep with who you will do what you want, then how much control would he gain over the minds and the hearts of men all around the world? And so I said, you know, I might have been wrong. Because at first I thought maybe he had given up and moved on. But then I thought, no, he's still around, he's still haunting this city and he's just got a different way of doing it. And so for you to go in, I mean, brother God, my heart rejoices when I hear you speak. You could step into my pulpit any day of the week. That said, I'm confident that I hope this is true, that there are people that hate you. [00:43:58] Speaker B: Oh yeah, there's a lot of people that hate me. And we learned that over the last year in politics, even people who are on the same side of the aisle as me, I'm talking the vitriol just over dumb things. And the things that they've gone after that, it's like, are you kidding me? Like, it's really not that hard. I was like, oh, this must be so nice. I mean, it's time consuming, it's tiring, it's irritating. But it's like, this is some of the most childish, dumbest stuff anybody could ever drum up or think up that. Are you kidding me? This is what y' all are coming up with and talking about, like, if I'm going to offend somebody, I want to offend them with the Gospel. Because the Gospel of Jesus Christ is sometimes offensive. Because whereas it shows love and whereas it shows that we have a way to God. What did Jesus say? He said, you think I come to bring peace? I don't come to bring peace. I come to bring a sword. And to divide. To divide households, to divide families. Why? Because the Gospel of Christ sets conviction in our life to where you either have to want to accept him for who he is, Lord and Savior, which means I'm a sinner who cannot make it on my own, or I do like Pilate did. I wash my hands and I believe the lie and say, I'm innocent of this man's blood. Those are the two options. You either believe that you are filthy rags, or you don't believe it. But either way, you have to realize that I am the problem. With me, it's not the devil, it's not a demon, it's not angelic powers. Those are the ones that are fighting against God. But what does he tell cain in Genesis 4. 6? He says, what is wrong with you? Why are you downtrodden? This is God telling this to Cain, almost like a granddaddy talking to his grandson. Don't you know if you do what is well, it will be, or if you do what is right, it will be well with you. But if you don't, sin is lying in wait at your door. Its desire is for you, but you should rule over it. That is unbelievably powerful coming from the mouth of God. Because what does he say? He says, be perfect, as your Father in heaven is perfect. We should strive to be like him. We should strive to fight sin. But the problems we have in our life are what? When our own fleshly desires. When we look at something with lust and we say we want that, whether it's infidelity in a marriage, whether it's another person, whether it's another job, whether it's coveting what somebody else has, whether it's a position, whatever it is. My fleshly desires say, I want this. And what does it do? It wells up in somebody and it becomes sin when it takes hold. And sin, when it's full grown, becomes death. That is what we see across the board. And that is probably one of the biggest things I've seen in this is people don't view sin that way. They view God as a Magic 8 ball that gives me what I want as opposed to Lord. First, he's called Lord many more times in the New Testament than he's called Savior and Savior. Next, believe in my heart and confess with my mouth that Jesus Christ, Lord and Savior, that he came, lived, died, rose again on the third day, and you will be set free. And God is not far from each of us. [00:47:08] Speaker A: So. And that's a good word, and I have to remind myself of that. Paul said to the Athenians, you're not far, you know, to people who hated him. So there are people that hate you. You know that honest question, how do you feel about them? [00:47:26] Speaker B: It doesn't bother me at all. I pray for them daily. Pray for very specific people who have said very specific things to me in a vitriolic way just during this campaign and even before it, you know, And I'm not the type of guy. I mean, if you like me, great. If you don't like me, it's not going to hurt my feelings. I've got a beautiful wife that loves me sometimes. Sometimes she lets me know how upset she is with me. And then three beautiful little girls who God has given me to raise. So I've got a family that loves me. I don't have to have somebody else's love or validation. [00:47:59] Speaker A: So if there's somebody out there, and to be quite honest, I'm thinking anytime I post something on Facebook that speaks of my convictions or whatever, then the only hate I get, and it doesn't bother me either, because I know the person. And I know if we sat down face to face, we could talk through it. And they're not going to feel about me the way they think they feel about me. But the only hate I get, it's not from local people, it's from people back in Alabama. It's my family, and it's generally the people, and God bless them. I'm not saying this out of hate or anger. The only time I hear from them is if I mention something that's political. Because we disagree on those issues and so they will come out strong. And so you got people. You got people who they. They want the religion of the Alphabet, right? They want all of that. They want it in every school. They want every church to be called hate speech that preaches truth. There are people in the state of Alabama. [00:49:01] Speaker B: It's insanity. [00:49:02] Speaker A: Yeah. And so if my heart rejoices when I hear what you believe, trusting you entirely that you're telling me the truth, their heart, they're going to hate this. They're going to watch it and they're going to hate it. But what I'm hearing you say is you don't hate them. [00:49:23] Speaker B: Oh, no, absolutely. [00:49:24] Speaker A: That you would represent them well as a sinner. [00:49:26] Speaker B: Well, Jesus, when he's being nailed to the cross, what does he say? Forgive them, Father, they don't know what they do. What is that? We should never apply malice where ignorance can be put in place. So I don't think that their hate is truly malicious intent. I think a lot of times it's ignorance as to what maybe I'm even saying that they think that I'm saying. But then there's another side of it. And this is something that the interconnectivity of cell phones, of 5G networks, of the Internet has done. It makes people a lot braver than they really are. What I've noticed is if there's a risk of getting your teeth knocked down your throat, somebody will say a lot less. That's why on the SEAL teams, I mean, with my buddies in platoon, we would fight, we would get in fist fights, but we were also a lot more careful with what we said with each other. Because I know that if I say something that I shouldn't say right here, there's another 225 pound man who's just going to say, hey, it ain't two dudes talking, it's two dudes fighting now. So there is that. That is removed for sure when you're behind a screen and on a keyboard. And so people are a lot more vitriolic when there are no consequences. Media, the same way they're a lot more vitriolic when there are no real consequences to what they're actually saying. And I think that that is one, a shame. But two, it's the way our world works. It's what the Bible calls scoffers. And something to add to your point, you talked about being your family or the people you're close to, that would be the most, you know, have the most disdain toward what you say Jesus said. And I mean, if they did it to Jesus, they're definitely going to do it to us. But he said a prophet's without honor in his own country. And that's something that's pretty powerful. You know, your people, our people, Republicans, you know, for me, running in a Republican primary, they are going to be the ones who are the. They want to discredit you the most. And, you know, I don't know why that is, but scripture does tell us that will happen. [00:51:24] Speaker A: And my friend Aaron Bean, Representative Bean, he said, you know, one day you're a rhino, the next day you're a maga extremist. He said, every day, you can't wait [00:51:35] Speaker B: for those two things. [00:51:38] Speaker A: What I want to see of you as a pastor, you know, just for whatever, I could speak into your heart or whatever right here, right now, if God gives you this race, if that's his plan for your future. And I think this is what I'm hearing from you, and I'm not sure who you may know who this is original with, but I think it was something that. That Lee said back when the war began between the states. Lee said, it's not that I hate what's in front of me, it's that I love what's behind me. [00:52:07] Speaker B: That's exactly right. I think it was Robert E. Lee that said that. Yeah. [00:52:10] Speaker A: You know, and whatever the cool thing about the conclusion of that war and reconstruction and gosh, here in Alabama, we lived through reconstruction. You know, the cool thing about it is that when all the dust settled, there were a few men on both sides that the enemy, previous enemies, embraced as heroes. And so, you know, you look at men in the south would look at Grant and sing his praises. They elected him president twice. You look at men in the north, and they said that there's no greater man than Robert E. Lee that walk the streets of the south or the north and never he waged war. And we need politicians, we need senators willing to with words, with policy. We need them to go to battle. But I think that's a good example of we need a man who can go, not because he hates what's in front of him, meaning people, but he loves what's behind him. And so I'll ask you on camera, do you love the state of Alabama? [00:53:24] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, absolutely. You know, I mean, this is where my girls were born. This is where my wife and I, you know, were born and are from. This is where we're raising our family. This is what I know. You know, it's the great state of Alabama. We love Alabama. And even one more important thing, you know, home is where your heart is. My wife and girls are going to be here in Alabama. I'm going to have to travel back and forth to work, to Washington, and my heart will be here in Alabama because it's going to be where that blonde headed woman and those three Little girls are. And so that's an important thing, especially when you're a representative or a senator from a state going to Washington. We need somebody who's going to be a representative from Alabama to Washington, not somebody who's an envoy from Washington to the people of Alabama. And I think that's where it's been flipped on its head over the years. So many people move there with their families, and I'm not hating on folks that move there with their families, but it makes it much more difficult for you to truly be from your state and to love your state and for your heart to be in your state. That would be the first thing. The second thing is love is a much larger driver than hate. People sell hate on the corner. I mean, you see it all the time. You see with these political ads. You see it with the PACs that support me and support my opponent, and the hate that they. And really, the lies that they'll push and they'll tell that the candidate can't do anything about, because again, that's just the way the rules work. And it's hate and it's vitriol, and it doesn't actually do much except for the cockroach and the salad people that everybody likes to see. You know, people will say, oh, I'm so sick of mudslinging. But, buddy, they sure do like it, especially the media folks. They don't want to let people stand on their own two feet and pick the best person for the job. And then on the other side of that, it's the amount of money behind it. You know, you don't oftentimes really get to see who somebody really is. You have deception. You have lies from candidates, from political action committees, from the campaign that are able to present something that's not true. So these are the things that make it harder for the voters. But as far as it goes, the love for something is a far greater driver than the hate for something. And we learned that in the SEAL teams. That's why you got guys like Mikey Mansoura who dive on a grenade on a rooftop in Afghanistan, or in a rooftop in Afghanistan, a rooftop in Iraq, dive on a grenade and a sniper hide and give their life for the men that are on that roof with them. It wasn't hate and hate against the enemy that did that. It was love for his brothers. And that is something that's different. Jesus says, no man was it John 15:13. No man have any greater love than he would give his life for his friends. Y' all look that up. And make sure I got that right. Somebody. I think it's John 15. Is it 15? 13? I know it's John. I believe it's chapter 15, verse 13. But I get it wrong a lot of times. But anyway, that is the largest driver. So, yes, that's the only reason I'm running. Who would want to do, who would want to go through this if it wasn't for the love of your state? [00:56:35] Speaker A: And, well, you know, and just the reality of hate, what we saw over the last couple of nights in Ireland, that's taking place. I know you're probably dialed into local politics much tighter, but, you know, just, just evil. You know, my son and I were talking about it and he was going to bring it up on his phone and said, don't show that to her. Don't show that to my wife. Brutal. [00:56:59] Speaker B: Oh, absolutely. [00:57:02] Speaker A: But I get that, I get the anger as a result of that. And so policy matters. And what they're seeing in Ireland is a result of policy. And it's. And it's happened over decades and they're reaping the benefits of it. And so Alabama, how many days away are we from the vote? [00:57:26] Speaker B: Like three. [00:57:27] Speaker A: It's Tuesday, so we're gonna. This is gonna be out today. We're gonna pump the fire out of it. Alabama has a big decision to make. We've not talked a great deal about policy. That's really, it's the policy writer. It's the man's heart that I wanted our people to hear from. I opened it up and I asked our viewers, what would you like to hear from Jared Hudson? There's a couple of policy issues. They want to know where you're at on abortion. [00:58:06] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, abortion. I even hate using the term abortion. It's murder, right? I mean, I hate to say the right to life too, because that's kind of, I mean, it's like, do we have to say that? Of course there should be a right to life. Life begins at conception. That's plain and simple. What we see happening oftentimes is they will argue the Even less than 3% of the time that there's rape, incest, or life of the mother issues. It's less than 3% of the time that that exists. But we'll just say 3% for heck, let's give them 5% of the time just to make it easy. If we could take away 95% of convenience based abortions and then have an argument about that other 5% of the time, it's actually a whole lot less than that I'm giving them. We're being very gracious here. I would say that is a talk and argument we can have. But even for me, it still doesn't change. Two rights don't make or two rights don't make a wrong. Two wrongs don't make a right. So your sin and death is you're [00:59:05] Speaker A: going to go to D.C. and take what we can get as we can get it, but your ultimate goal is to save those babies 100%. [00:59:13] Speaker B: Why? I mean, because that's what our country was founded on, right? Judeo Christian values. And people argue and say it's not. No. There was 13 colonies and of the 13 colonies, nine. Nine of those colonies, nine of those states required a profession of faith and a Protestant profession of faith in their state constitutions. And I think it was a tenth one. It was a Catholic profession of faith. [00:59:38] Speaker A: There was the prohibition against the establishment of a religion because you wouldn't be able to pick one. All the states had their own. [00:59:45] Speaker B: That's right. [00:59:46] Speaker A: So you couldn't start a national church to usurp the state churches. [00:59:51] Speaker B: And they saw what happened with the Church of England and the partnering of government and church and the ability to allow the power of the government to influence the power of the church over the people who were ultimately trying to worship God the best they could. So with all that being said, it doesn't mean that you're going to go up there and we're going to jam Christian values down your throat. I'm going to live out my Christian values and I'm going to share the gospel in front of you, just like you can share and believe whatever you want to believe as codified in our First Amendment, which ain't a government given right, it's a God given right that's codified by our government and should be protected by the government. And when the government doesn't protect it, it should be pushed back on by the people. [01:00:37] Speaker A: So let me sum up the other. There were three main questions. [01:00:41] Speaker B: Okay? So one is the abortion, the right to life. Life begins at conception. We've got to fight for life tooth and nail. [01:00:47] Speaker A: You've been clear. Okay. Trump endorsed the other guy early. And so I wonder if, I think he would like you if he sat down and if you had the same connections. Personally speaking, it's hard for a preacher to speak on Trump. I'll make enemies. But nevertheless, personally, I think it was Doug Wilson who said America had cancer and he was the chemo. That's a classic phrase. But, you know, so I can't agree with everything the guy said. He's probably said something today that he'll have to answer for before the Lord. Hopefully he gets his heart right with that. So that disclaimer, I do think he was the right man for the right time. I think his instincts tend to be conservative. I like a lot of what he's done, a lot of what he's brought back about Americana that we had lost, a national culture that's been really cool to see. But he endorsed the other guy. It looks like the needle's swinging in your favor. You're going to be able to work with Trump when you get up there? [01:02:06] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, absolutely. I mean, I voted for him every time he ran. You know, his son actually came here to Birmingham to do something and didn't want a Secret Service detail. And at no cost to him, me and some of the guys that work here, some other deputies that I know, and we. We put together a detail for him and ran protection for him at no cost to the family. Just because most of us, I would say the vast majority of Alabamians and the vast majority, at least guys that I'm around, love what that family's done, see what they've sacrificed to at least, you know, become the president of this. [01:02:41] Speaker A: Absolutely. [01:02:41] Speaker B: Of this nation. And so that would be the first thing. Yeah, absolutely. Can work with Trump, but at the same time, on an endorsement thing, you know, I think if I had an opportunity to look him in the eye, shake his hand, we would be having a different conversation about the endorsement. But it's also. I understand it's not personal. He endorsed every sitting congressman in our state. He's got a. There's a slim majority right now, and there are things that need to get passed and we can't have. And I'm not even saying that congressional members from Alabama would have done this, but I understand the risk if you upset somebody while we're trying to get things done on behalf of this nation in a short amount of time. It's kind of like Smokey and the Bandit. We got a long way to go in a short time to get there. [01:03:21] Speaker A: And you know much more about it. You know much more about it than I do from what I do know about it. There's a spectrum. When we say conservative, we don't always mean the same thing. When we say Republican, we don't always mean the same thing. There's a spectrum there. And so the way those things happen are not as straightforward sometimes as we would assume they are. It's not like, hey, let's get two guys in a room. Pick one. [01:03:42] Speaker B: It's not straightforward at all. It's not. So the biggest thing I've never met President Trump would love, I'm looking forward the opportunity to meet him and shaking his hand and working with him as we move forward to protect the initiatives of, in my case, the state of Alabama, but ultimately the United States of America. The other side of it, though, is this. It's not President Trump. It's not anybody else who elects the next senator from the state of Alabama. It's the people of Alabama. This position belongs to. And I'm looking at the camera. If you're from Alabama, this position belongs to you, the people of Alabama, not Jared Hudson, not President Trump, not anybody else. And it's you who get to elect your next senator. And one of the biggest issues that we see is people that want to ride the coattails of all the great things that somebody else does. In the SEAL teams, we have a saying, earn your trident every day. I don't get to ride the coattails of great men that went before me that bled to make this trident mean what it means. I have to earn it. I have to be worthy of this trident, just like we have to be worthy of Christ and his sacrifice, just as we have to be worthy of the sacrifice of those men and women who went and bled and died for this country. I have to be worthy of the voter who elects me to represent them. It's not riding somebody else's coattails. And that's the difference, I think. And that's almost why I don't like. And I haven't gone around and sought. I don't think I've sought any endorsements. You know, there might have been a few sheriffs that I talked to say, hey, man, I'd love an endorsement, but we haven't really sought endorsements. We have sought the voters endorsement. We seek the vote of the people of Alabama. And I seek to hopefully earn their trust and earn their vote on June 6th. [01:05:18] Speaker A: Well, historically, that's been the heart of Alabamia. [01:05:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:21] Speaker A: Is that, you know, we don't need somebody in Florida or New York or anywhere else speaking for us. [01:05:26] Speaker B: That's right. [01:05:27] Speaker A: We want our own voice. And so I'm hoping and praying that they feel that way about this race. I'm certain they do, deep down, if they'll take. If they'll see what an important issue it is to get men like you on that Senate floor. The third issue is a softball. So they wanted to know about abortion. We've talked about that. They wanted to know about Trump. The third big issue is a couple of them wanted your autograph. [01:05:51] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:05:52] Speaker A: Because they said, man. Literally. Literally. I got a Facebook message and said, hey, my grandkids are huge fans of his. They want to be just like him when they grow up. [01:06:04] Speaker B: Don't be just like me. [01:06:06] Speaker A: I'm just telling you what they said. [01:06:07] Speaker B: Seek Jesus. [01:06:10] Speaker A: So that's what Alabamians think of you. [01:06:14] Speaker B: That's powerful. I mean, yeah, that's easy. Send them an autograph. I don't know what it's worth. You know, nothing. [01:06:19] Speaker A: Let's make that happen. And then you go up there, you represent the Lord. You represent Alabama well. And if we prove that this episode sets you over the mark, I want to Code Red Boulevard. [01:06:33] Speaker B: All right, we'll work on it. [01:06:34] Speaker A: Thank you, my friend. [01:06:35] Speaker B: Thank you so much, brother. [01:06:36] Speaker A: Honored to have you, man. [01:06:38] Speaker B: It's an honor to be here with you. Thank you for coming down and seeing us. All right.

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